JavaScript is disabled. Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? Do you really think your little writeup is going to convince anyone dead set on lying? For more information, please see our They said "No problem, we'll work around it." A recent post made me think of these questions. Never saw him again. If the answer is YES, congrats shipmates just got injured or even died on your watch. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). Now they say I need more information such as previous eye prescription, doctors notes, and more. and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. It may be at MEPS, it may be later in your career. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. Sounds about like what I figured. Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. (Navy). Post by Cisco4711 January 12th, 2010, 7:10 am. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. AF gives thumbs-up to pilots who had LASIK surgery - News - Stripes, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. MEPS stands for Military Entrance Processing Station. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You should have had a post-op visit to measure refractions at 90 days post-op and then another 30 days after that visit.https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. john danaher instructional videos Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Online posts, including anonymous posts and posts made here on APC, have been used in lawsuits against unions. And if you don't know what to do, you have no business applying to the military. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. I didn't mention it at the physical, everything when fine. Generally speaking, no. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. For questions like "Have you ever had mental health counseling?" Disclose EVERYTHING. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. MEPS threaten to put these kids in fucking prison if they lie, and they lie anyway. I had the surgery in august of 2014. I lied at meps . It allows MEPS to see your entire Electronic Health Record (EHR). They don't understand this stuff. Make it impossible to lie? My only option is to wait another month just to go back to get a 'check up', costing me precious time and money again, without insurance, pushing back my MEPS appointment another month or two. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles View Gallery Uploads Marine Friend . Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. #12. It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. I got disqualified for disclosing a medical issue. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Okay, so I need some advice. TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. and our He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. Put me in the disqualified for medical category. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. 48.8K. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . I think the lesson here is not to tell people to disclose everything, becausethey won't. You are using an out of date browser. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. You need to disclose it. No personally identifying information (PII). Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Your insistence on snapping back or being defensive only adds evidence to a immaturity that will not serve the military. KUDOS! Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. Should I just wait for him to contact me? My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. He. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. You are using an out of date browser. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. How about this: Lying to join the military is a fraudulent enlistment and can result in a felony conviction. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. It is not the recruiters job to get you into the military, nor is it MEPS' job to disqualify you. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. If it won't come up again or if you don't need a TS-SCI, you can get away with not telling. Press J to jump to the feed. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. PERIOD. uuugh, it was hot. Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History Hopefully by then youll be completely withdrawn from your meds. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Thanks! Am I? HELP!!!! A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. Good luck to you. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). Good luck to you. How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? What should I do if MEPS continues to request medical records that don't exist? Your Visit to MEPS All enlisted recruits are evaluated at MEPS Your recruiter helps prepare you for MEPS a) Check our wiki b) Run a search c) Post your question with a *clear and specific title*, Press J to jump to the feed. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. Now I've been referred to behavioral health for depression. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . I lied at meps . When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. She said a recent one had about 30 pages regarding the procedure. 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